From my cohorts at Patriot Post:
Has there ever been a group who exhibited such arrogance? They think they are indeed the ruling class, but we fought a war about 230 years ago to detach ourselves from a kingdom which featured a House of Lords.
Perhaps it’s time to go back to the way it originally was before the Seventeenth Amendment was passed and allow the state legislatures to select Senators. It can’t be much worse.
Arrogance? Really? After 8 years of bullying and telling everyone they “hated America” because they disagreed with the President, you think the DEMOCRATS are “arrogant”? C’mon, man. I know you have a narrative to push, but let’s just be put things in context.
Yes, really. Poll after poll suggests the people don’t want the radical change to the health care system that the Democrats are trying to quietly sneak through (so much for “transparency” and having it all on C-SPAN.)
And what happened to “dissent is patriotic” anyway? If we can’t have it both ways you can’t either.
I’d have more respect for elected Democrats if they’d kept their immediate post-9/11 respect for the country for more than a week or two.
Poll after poll also suggests that Americans, by a significant majority DO want a public option (oh the Socialist horror!) which this bill no longer has.
I’ll give you the C-SPAN transparency issue. There’s no excuse for Congress not to authorize televising it.
Dissent IS Patriotic. That’s why it showed incredible arrogance when the previous administration tried to paint all dissenters as unpatriotic. “They better watch what they say” was an arrogant bully tactic from and arrogant bully administration.
post 9/11 respect for more than a week or two? The whole country was united against those who attacked us. By late 2002, Congress had voted in favor of letting Bush pre-emptively invade a country that had nothing to do with the attack based on lies to the American people. And don’t talk to me about “respect” when, on the DAY of the Christmas attack, your side was already attacking the President. If 9/11 happened today, there would be NO support from your side for the President. The Christmas day attack proved that without a shadow of a doubt.
We backed our President and country after 9/11. When he squandered the good faith given to him, we called him on it. But, we “hate America”, according to the right wing. I don’t remember setting up militias and talking about “revolution” when Bush won. You guys are doing that right now.
Chuck, I hate to disagree with anyone, especially a fellow Army grunt, but I am of the opinion that arrogance is defined as thinking that you can craft a 2000 page bill that will forever change a large segment of our economy and do no harm. I have studied who made the inputs in 3200 and the senate versions, and as I see it, like in our banking sector, your side has put the foxes in charge of the henhouse when drafting these bills. I’m sure you are aware of all of the special interest money that has lined democratic pockets from the insurance industry. Is this something that concerns you in any way? Again, as I see it the majority of issues with health care can be solved very simply and very safely. If lowering costs and bringing insurance to more people is the goal, then there are existing business models and regulatory models that have already been very successful at doing just that. Bringing this model in line with the insurance industry is not something I’m willing to write about on here, I will be having a conversation about this with someone very soon, but I offer at least one piece of low hanging fruit that your side could quickly and easily glom onto. A little known factoid recently shared by a favorite Senator of yours, Ben Cardin, I think you have him on video somewhere, was revealed on this website a few weeks ago. As I recall, Senator Ben went on record as saying that 72% of Marylanders have access to only two or three insurance providers. This is astounding news broken on this website. Of course it received scant attention in the media, and even more astounding is the fact that our Senator used this to actually call for increased government intervention. Now Chuck, it begs the question, would you agree that increasing competition by modification of existing laws to force/allow insurance companies to sell across state lines thereby creating competiton between insurance providers, which according to even the most liberal economists would lower costs, might be a very simple solution to the problem proffered by Senator Cardin?
There was no need to set up militias or talk about “revolution” when Bush won – your side just got in a snit and threatened to leave the country. Yet they are still here…
The way I look at it, our side forgave Bush his trespasses because, in the end, they thought Bush was doing his best to protect America and work to solve problems. Not all of us were pleased with Medicare Part D or NCLB but most liked the philosophy of waging war on Islamofasciats where they live rather than in a New York courtroom.
But on Obama’s watch so far we’ve had the Fort Hood massacre and the panty bomber. While neither is the equal of 9/11, I’m sure if these had happened under Bush’s watch your side would blame him for it. When you have an opponent whose ultimate personal aim is meeting their 72 virgins in paradise, well, I’m all for letting them get there.
Chuck, your comments inspire me to revisit this thread again. It’s good to hear you say that Obama, Pelosi and Reid are mistaken on the issue of CSPAN transparency/coverage, after all, Obama or Pelosi could have made this the most transparent and forthright administration ever. Then again, aren’t these the words that we have all heard somewhere before? As far as the rest, will there ever come a time in your life when you will stop using grievances from the past to excuse trespasses of today? What was wrong then is still wrong in this time, is it not? Said another way Chuck, it’s easier to change the future than it is to change the past.