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		<title>By: Two Sentz</title>
		<link>http://monoblogue.us/2009/03/02/steele-vs-limbaugh/comment-page-1/#comment-98961</link>
		<dc:creator>Two Sentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t anyone listen to George Will anymore? I&#039;d take him over Limbaugh or Savage any day.</description>
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		<title>By: Final Frontier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Final Frontier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
Going deaf is no picnic,  of course, but it is my understanding that the guy can hear again.  As for his divorce(s), I would hazard a guess that someone who has divorced three times is probably heavily to blame for the collapse of his marriages, and should in no way be the standard bearer for the &quot;family values&quot; Republican Party.  You all want to prevent gay people from destroying the sanctity of marriage?  Look no further than Rush Limbaugh.  When you start passing laws that Rush Limbaugh cannot get married, then you will cease being hypocrites, at least on that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
Going deaf is no picnic,  of course, but it is my understanding that the guy can hear again.  As for his divorce(s), I would hazard a guess that someone who has divorced three times is probably heavily to blame for the collapse of his marriages, and should in no way be the standard bearer for the &#8220;family values&#8221; Republican Party.  You all want to prevent gay people from destroying the sanctity of marriage?  Look no further than Rush Limbaugh.  When you start passing laws that Rush Limbaugh cannot get married, then you will cease being hypocrites, at least on that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: swampcritter2</title>
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		<dc:creator>swampcritter2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idiot, The Republicans can hardly be chastised as &quot;The Party of No.&quot; When they presented their ideas to our Enlightened Leader they were summarily rebuffed with the imperious statement, &quot;I won.&quot; 
Also more than once in the last 8 years Republicans Bush and McCain warned about the impending failure of FannieMae and Freddie Mac. They were ignored by the likes Chris Dodd, and Barney Frank. What happened next?
As far as the Pink Shirt Crazies, or the 9-11 Truth Commision goes, the Democrat Party trots out the nut-cases any time they do not hold a political majority. It&#039;s called grasping at straws. This tactic is also employed to distract the public from more substantive issues. Sometimes it works. Other times you need an Oprah or a George Soros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiot, The Republicans can hardly be chastised as &#8220;The Party of No.&#8221; When they presented their ideas to our Enlightened Leader they were summarily rebuffed with the imperious statement, &#8220;I won.&#8221;<br />
Also more than once in the last 8 years Republicans Bush and McCain warned about the impending failure of FannieMae and Freddie Mac. They were ignored by the likes Chris Dodd, and Barney Frank. What happened next?<br />
As far as the Pink Shirt Crazies, or the 9-11 Truth Commision goes, the Democrat Party trots out the nut-cases any time they do not hold a political majority. It&#8217;s called grasping at straws. This tactic is also employed to distract the public from more substantive issues. Sometimes it works. Other times you need an Oprah or a George Soros.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://monoblogue.us/2009/03/02/steele-vs-limbaugh/comment-page-1/#comment-98952</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In fact, the only idea the Republicans are offering is lower taxes and fewer regulations, exactly the same type of policies that got us into this economic disaster in the first place.&quot;

Please elaborate. I haven&#039;t heard anyone, left or right, blame this on low tax rates. I have heard that it is the fault of regulations, though. Considering that the financial maket is quite highly regulated, it seems a stretch to say that &quot;fewer regulations&quot; put us where we are today. Since you feel differently, I&#039;d be interested in hearing what you mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, the only idea the Republicans are offering is lower taxes and fewer regulations, exactly the same type of policies that got us into this economic disaster in the first place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please elaborate. I haven&#8217;t heard anyone, left or right, blame this on low tax rates. I have heard that it is the fault of regulations, though. Considering that the financial maket is quite highly regulated, it seems a stretch to say that &#8220;fewer regulations&#8221; put us where we are today. Since you feel differently, I&#8217;d be interested in hearing what you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: idiiot!</title>
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		<dc:creator>idiiot!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted, in the podcast they arent always explicit lies that are address, but sometimes are the afforementioned straw men that are set up to avoid intelligent debate and accountability on his part.

Where is the acknowledgement of his extremism and horrible tone and disposition?  I wouldnt allow Keith Olberman or Bill Maher to be the figurehead of my party that could not be questionsed or challeged.  This isnt someone like Kissinger or Goldwater or Ted Kennedy, old stalwarts who have been in the trenches and deserve to have standing.  This is a man whose job it is to create an educational show.  How does he have this much unchecked sway? 

You talk about extreme liberalism in the White House, but it is not like the Pink Shirt crazies or 9-11 Truthers hold any sway like extremist did in the Bush Administration, and still do in the Republican Party.  Dont tell me you really think ACRON is extreme? Obama has governed from the middle (from the center-right on foreign policy) and even my father admits he is doing a good job.

And I am not suggesting that you cowtow to the Democrats just because you lost the election and screwed up the economy and took political discourse lower than its ever been,but that you provide constructive opposition instead of just pointing at the Democrats and sayin, &quot;Wrong&quot;, hoping that it doesnt work so you can be deemed right down the road despite offering nothing substantive to fix one of the worst financial situations in generations.

In fact, the only idea the Republicans are offering is lower taxes and fewer regulations, exactly the same type of policies that got us into this economic disaster in the first place.

You cannot forget the last 8 years never happened like an etch-e-sketch.  Like Little Joey getting mad when people go after his family.  Selective memory and outrage is not the route to take on this,  and all polls indicate that the average American feels the same way too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted, in the podcast they arent always explicit lies that are address, but sometimes are the afforementioned straw men that are set up to avoid intelligent debate and accountability on his part.</p>
<p>Where is the acknowledgement of his extremism and horrible tone and disposition?  I wouldnt allow Keith Olberman or Bill Maher to be the figurehead of my party that could not be questionsed or challeged.  This isnt someone like Kissinger or Goldwater or Ted Kennedy, old stalwarts who have been in the trenches and deserve to have standing.  This is a man whose job it is to create an educational show.  How does he have this much unchecked sway? </p>
<p>You talk about extreme liberalism in the White House, but it is not like the Pink Shirt crazies or 9-11 Truthers hold any sway like extremist did in the Bush Administration, and still do in the Republican Party.  Dont tell me you really think ACRON is extreme? Obama has governed from the middle (from the center-right on foreign policy) and even my father admits he is doing a good job.</p>
<p>And I am not suggesting that you cowtow to the Democrats just because you lost the election and screwed up the economy and took political discourse lower than its ever been,but that you provide constructive opposition instead of just pointing at the Democrats and sayin, &#8220;Wrong&#8221;, hoping that it doesnt work so you can be deemed right down the road despite offering nothing substantive to fix one of the worst financial situations in generations.</p>
<p>In fact, the only idea the Republicans are offering is lower taxes and fewer regulations, exactly the same type of policies that got us into this economic disaster in the first place.</p>
<p>You cannot forget the last 8 years never happened like an etch-e-sketch.  Like Little Joey getting mad when people go after his family.  Selective memory and outrage is not the route to take on this,  and all polls indicate that the average American feels the same way too.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the approach our Founding Fathers took to insure as best they could a limited government in response to the tyranny of the British Crown, Reagan&#039;s statement is timeless and doesn&#039;t need the qualifier.

Well, I&#039;m glad you pointed out the podcast, but something tells me that their &quot;facts&quot; are a little slanted too.

I&#039;d enjoy laughing at the extremism on the left but the problem is America foolishly put them in charge and once freedom is lost it&#039;s extremely tough to get back. Right now Obama is working on the freedom of achievers to keep what they earn. I wouldn&#039;t mind a &quot;progressive&quot; tax bite so much if it were consumption-based but there&#039;s no sign Obama or any of his economic advisors are considering such a bold idea because they can&#039;t regulate behavior nearly as well with a consumption-based tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the approach our Founding Fathers took to insure as best they could a limited government in response to the tyranny of the British Crown, Reagan&#8217;s statement is timeless and doesn&#8217;t need the qualifier.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m glad you pointed out the podcast, but something tells me that their &#8220;facts&#8221; are a little slanted too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d enjoy laughing at the extremism on the left but the problem is America foolishly put them in charge and once freedom is lost it&#8217;s extremely tough to get back. Right now Obama is working on the freedom of achievers to keep what they earn. I wouldn&#8217;t mind a &#8220;progressive&#8221; tax bite so much if it were consumption-based but there&#8217;s no sign Obama or any of his economic advisors are considering such a bold idea because they can&#8217;t regulate behavior nearly as well with a consumption-based tax.</p>
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		<title>By: idiiot!</title>
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		<dc:creator>idiiot!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a podcast called the &quot;Limbaugh Lie of the Day&quot;.  The fact that he can put out a podcast a day should tell you something.

This summer I didnt have my ipod for a month and very limited radio selections.  i started listening to conservative radio.  i really did want to learn about John McCain&#039;s positions.  

You know what I got instead?  Fear mongering and lies about Obama and Liberals!

Not once did I hear something I believe in described as such with intellectual honesty.  It was straw man after straw man.  Fear mongering after fear mongering.  

How come I can read Andrew Sullivan and his links everyday and be intellectually stimulated and provoked to really think about the issue and my stance without being offended as a decent human being? Its one thing to be a principled conservative, its another to be Rove/Coulter/Hannity/Rush/Palin and not even be able to tell the difference.

Fun Fact Thursday- Reagan didnt actually say that the government is the problem and not the solution, he prefaced that comment by stating, &quot;at this time, the....&quot;  You know, if you cared about the truth and all that.  I never knew that listening to conservative radio and foxnews and I prob never would have bc that takes the extremism out of it and thats where all the fun is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a podcast called the &#8220;Limbaugh Lie of the Day&#8221;.  The fact that he can put out a podcast a day should tell you something.</p>
<p>This summer I didnt have my ipod for a month and very limited radio selections.  i started listening to conservative radio.  i really did want to learn about John McCain&#8217;s positions.  </p>
<p>You know what I got instead?  Fear mongering and lies about Obama and Liberals!</p>
<p>Not once did I hear something I believe in described as such with intellectual honesty.  It was straw man after straw man.  Fear mongering after fear mongering.  </p>
<p>How come I can read Andrew Sullivan and his links everyday and be intellectually stimulated and provoked to really think about the issue and my stance without being offended as a decent human being? Its one thing to be a principled conservative, its another to be Rove/Coulter/Hannity/Rush/Palin and not even be able to tell the difference.</p>
<p>Fun Fact Thursday- Reagan didnt actually say that the government is the problem and not the solution, he prefaced that comment by stating, &#8220;at this time, the&#8230;.&#8221;  You know, if you cared about the truth and all that.  I never knew that listening to conservative radio and foxnews and I prob never would have bc that takes the extremism out of it and thats where all the fun is!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;d go deaf to enjoy those other things you cited? That&#039;s what I was referring to.

You act like divorce is an easy thing to go through, too. Trust me, it&#039;s no picnic.

I&#039;ll back up Mike Netherland to some extent - more often than not Rush is proven to be correct.

By the way, I actually looked up the Media Matters post but unfortunately the link to the analysis they cite didn&#039;t work properly. I think that would have been the key to proving the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;d go deaf to enjoy those other things you cited? That&#8217;s what I was referring to.</p>
<p>You act like divorce is an easy thing to go through, too. Trust me, it&#8217;s no picnic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll back up Mike Netherland to some extent &#8211; more often than not Rush is proven to be correct.</p>
<p>By the way, I actually looked up the Media Matters post but unfortunately the link to the analysis they cite didn&#8217;t work properly. I think that would have been the key to proving the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Final Frontier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Final Frontier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason we &quot;libs&quot; find it difficult to have compassion for Limbaugh&#039;s drug addiction is the hypocrisy of it all--he has long been on record attacking liberals for being compassionate about drug addiction!  He&#039;s in favor of jail for guys who do illegal drugs, yet he was illegally using drugs (but this doesn&#039;t count?  Come on).  Michael, you say &quot;he’s paying a heavy price for it.&quot;  Let&#039;s see, post-drug abuse he has earned hundreds of millions of dollars, did not spend a day in jail, divorced wife number 3, and is a keynote speaker at CPAC.  I&#039;d love to pay that samme price.  And for Mr. Netherland, if you seriously think Limbaugh has never, ever been wrong, you have moved from loyal listener to cult member.  I could give you loads of examples: here&#039;s one http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020007

Oh, but that&#039;s the MSM working in cahoots with the liberals of the U.S Census Bureau, right Mike?  Yeah, the actuaries at the Census tend to be raving liberals.  Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason we &#8220;libs&#8221; find it difficult to have compassion for Limbaugh&#8217;s drug addiction is the hypocrisy of it all&#8211;he has long been on record attacking liberals for being compassionate about drug addiction!  He&#8217;s in favor of jail for guys who do illegal drugs, yet he was illegally using drugs (but this doesn&#8217;t count?  Come on).  Michael, you say &#8220;he’s paying a heavy price for it.&#8221;  Let&#8217;s see, post-drug abuse he has earned hundreds of millions of dollars, did not spend a day in jail, divorced wife number 3, and is a keynote speaker at CPAC.  I&#8217;d love to pay that samme price.  And for Mr. Netherland, if you seriously think Limbaugh has never, ever been wrong, you have moved from loyal listener to cult member.  I could give you loads of examples: here&#8217;s one <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020007" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020007</a></p>
<p>Oh, but that&#8217;s the MSM working in cahoots with the liberals of the U.S Census Bureau, right Mike?  Yeah, the actuaries at the Census tend to be raving liberals.  Please.</p>
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		<title>By: swampcritter2</title>
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		<dc:creator>swampcritter2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the only thing that Savage ever said that I agree with is that Liberalism is a disease.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Netherland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Netherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read the comments and I have some observations:
1. Us guys lost the election the last time was because the Republicans lost track of who they are and are supposed to represent.
2. Libs need to disabuse themselves of this direct corelation between Republican politicians and conservatives.
3. Rush Limbaugh is not a spokesPERSON for anything.  He is the spokesMAN for the conservative movement. Get it straight.  OK?
4. &quot;He is factually, demonstrably wrong all the time and he never, ever admits it.&quot;  You would really be on to something (instead of on something) if you can do something that legions of highly paid liberal media types have been unable to do:  Demonstrate how Rush has been factually wrong.
ShoreThings: &quot;Ultimately, the true leaders of the conservative movement will take Rush down.&quot; True Leaders?  Like?  I think it is a safe if not sure bet that you wouldn&#039;t know a True Leader of the conservative movement if he fell in your lap.  But humor us and give us some names. Hmmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the comments and I have some observations:<br />
1. Us guys lost the election the last time was because the Republicans lost track of who they are and are supposed to represent.<br />
2. Libs need to disabuse themselves of this direct corelation between Republican politicians and conservatives.<br />
3. Rush Limbaugh is not a spokesPERSON for anything.  He is the spokesMAN for the conservative movement. Get it straight.  OK?<br />
4. &#8220;He is factually, demonstrably wrong all the time and he never, ever admits it.&#8221;  You would really be on to something (instead of on something) if you can do something that legions of highly paid liberal media types have been unable to do:  Demonstrate how Rush has been factually wrong.<br />
ShoreThings: &#8220;Ultimately, the true leaders of the conservative movement will take Rush down.&#8221; True Leaders?  Like?  I think it is a safe if not sure bet that you wouldn&#8217;t know a True Leader of the conservative movement if he fell in your lap.  But humor us and give us some names. Hmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;giant ball of different opinions&quot; seems to agree on one thing - that government is the solution, not the problem. 

And where&#039;s the compassion for the addicted that the Left is so famous for? Yes, Rush had a problem with prescription painkillers and he&#039;s paying a heavy price for it. It seems to me that one of the Kennedy grandchildren had a similar addiction and when he sought treatment we on the right didn&#039;t condemn him so much as we wished him the best on his recovery. But I knew that the drug addiction issue would come up sooner or later in your comments; it always does when the left discusses Limbaugh. If you can&#039;t refute the message, kill the messenger. By the way, I&#039;ll grant that I&#039;m with you on Michael Savage - he is annoying. 

In essence though what you&#039;re saying is that you&#039;ll accept the message you believe in regardless of the messenger, even if he or she has a lack of ethics, but moral equivalence is only allowed on the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;giant ball of different opinions&#8221; seems to agree on one thing &#8211; that government is the solution, not the problem. </p>
<p>And where&#8217;s the compassion for the addicted that the Left is so famous for? Yes, Rush had a problem with prescription painkillers and he&#8217;s paying a heavy price for it. It seems to me that one of the Kennedy grandchildren had a similar addiction and when he sought treatment we on the right didn&#8217;t condemn him so much as we wished him the best on his recovery. But I knew that the drug addiction issue would come up sooner or later in your comments; it always does when the left discusses Limbaugh. If you can&#8217;t refute the message, kill the messenger. By the way, I&#8217;ll grant that I&#8217;m with you on Michael Savage &#8211; he is annoying. </p>
<p>In essence though what you&#8217;re saying is that you&#8217;ll accept the message you believe in regardless of the messenger, even if he or she has a lack of ethics, but moral equivalence is only allowed on the left.</p>
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